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-Ralph Waldo Emerson




Friday, February 15, 2008

Washington pastor says public school is 'going to pay' for accepting them Gays


She's a WITCH! BURN HER! BURN HER!


Washington pastor says public school is 'going to pay'
Jeff Johnson - OneNewsNow.com - 2/15/2008 8:00:00 AM

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However, a letter of reprimand will not satisfy Hutcherson, who is asking that they be fired. The outspoken pastor also met with school officials over alleged harassment his daughter has suffered since the incident. "If it was a homosexual student, every one of you would be calling because you think that the gay community would sue you," Hutcherson says he told school administrators.

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20 comments:

Anonymous said...

His daughter is part of the GSA? That is awesome!

Perhaps she can enlighten her father, though I doubt any light could filter into that narrow mind that is clouded with the darkness of hate.

Anonymous said...

Hutcherson is a cancer on the Snoqualmie Valley. He will do anything to stay in the spotlight. He is sick. I am praying for him and asking my compassionate "true Christian" friends to do the same. He does not care about the school moving forward and getting over this. He does not care about his daughter. He cares about himself and getting attention. People should read about him on Wikipedia. Even the Bush White House tried to distance themselves from him and his self serving claims.

I am sorry for the students at Mt Si who deserve good teachers but if I were the teachers with the letters of reprimand and their friends, I would not put up with this crap. I would move to a new school district.

Why can't these egomaniac parents that want to do away with the separation of church and state just home school their children or leave their religion at the door? Witnessing your faith to others is one thing but shoving your perversion of a faith down others throats to get your way is sick. (FYI I am a Christian but I am bright enough to understand that in a public school others may not be. If we force our religion on people we are no better than the Taliban.)

If Hutcherson cared about ANYONE but himself he would not be calling for teachers to be fired and further fanning the flames. He would SHUT UP!

I do feel bad for his daughter and also the children of others involved in this mess.

I hope his daughter is bright enough to realize when she leaves home that her father has serious issues. He is truly toxic.

Do you think things may be uncomfortable for his daughter because he is calling for her teachers to be fired?

You do not have to think homosexuality is okay but you do not have the right to inflict violence and hatred on people who may be gay or may know someone who is gay.

Hutcherson and his wife claim they have been victims of threats. Why don't they acknowledge all the gay and lesbian people who have been too? If my kid was truly threatened we would move. I would do anything to keep them safe. Have police reports been filed about these threats? Have the threats been investigated? Is there any evidence that they exist?

I went to high school with a young man who tried to kill himself because he was gay. That is the type of crap Hutcherson is encouraging.

JC said...

A choice comment from a Hutcherson supporter @ onenewsnow:
"It's really so sad that the AIDS virus did not succeed in doing the job it was created to do. Yes, I said created! If Ronald Reagen and George Bush Sr. had just ignored their whining and crying, we'd be so much better off today and they'd either be completely gone or what is left of them would keep their big mouths shut!!!"

Also, if you listen to the audio, the reason Hutcherson's daughter is seeking to attend the GSA meetins is (in Hutcherson's own words): "Ask them (the GSA)'Why did you lie adn pretend that you didn't know that Ken Hutcherson was coming'".

Per Ken this poor persecuted child responded thusly when told that GSA members were uncomfortable with her attendance at their meetings:"Comfortable? Life isn't comfortable. If you wanna talk about uncomfortable, come live at my house for a while. They better get used to it, becuase I'm (Hutcherson's daughter) coming to the meeting".

Sounds to me like Hutcherson and his big media-whore mouth, just blew his "poor, poor, pitiful persecuted Hutcherson family" line of argument right out of the water. Seems clear to me that Hutcherson's daughter is the agressor in any issues that may have arisen between her and the GSA.

Anonymous said...

One News Now who has the story posted here on Pastor Hutcherson, is moderating their comments and not allowing posts that are against him to go up. I would not put a link to their interview on this website. When you do, it drives traffic to them and better numbers for them could drive up advertising dollars or make them think they are more popular than they are. They are obviously very one sided and only willing to tell his version of the "truth."

We should stay on message and not give him an audience he does not deserve. Pastor Hutcherson is trying to get attention. We are unfortunately giving it to him. He is a mere mortal and not the voice of God. He may feel otherwise but it is not so.

I think Hutcherson is becoming a media whore who like Britney or Paris need attention for self worth.

A true Christian would be building houses for Habitat for Humanity or leading mission trips to developing countries etc and not wasting so much time preaching hate.

Jesus loved all not just some.

I think we need to really focus on equality for all and fair treatment for the teachers who did what they thought was in the best interest for all their students.

I worry that this blog site is feeding into the Hutcherson spin of negativity and will feed his "Prayer Warriors."

I hope we can focus on justice and safety for All students and an effort to make sure the teachers are not the scapegoats for poor administrative decisions.

Anonymous said...

Yet another distortion.

I've asked a GSA member about this and they have no idea what he's talking about. According to this member, his daughter is not only welcome to attend the meetings, but they wouold encourage it.

This is just Hutcherson posturing for some kind of harassment law-suit against the district, mark my words.

Anonymous said...

Hi JC,

Funny that you used the term "media whore." I just used that too.

I see him as a small man who has picked an easy target in homosexuals. He is sad really.

Small minded people need an enemy to feel superior. Look at all the genocides.

His enemy may be gays but I think that is based on the easiness in attacking them.

Why does he not make child abusers his target or torturers or drug traffickers, or pornographers or pimps?

Why doesn't he use more of his time to speak to prison inmates and minister to them. They truly hurt our society more than gays. His energy should be focussed there.

I do not have to lock my door at night because I worry about gays getting married.

My taxes are not going up because some gays may want to get married.

Homosexuals are not hurting me.

He is such a weak person and the poor judgment of the adminstrators in allowing him to speak is probably occuring to them now in their having to deal with him and his threats.

I feel so sorry for his daughter.

MtSiParents said...

Anonymous said...
One News Now who has the story posted here on Pastor Hutcherson, is moderating their comments and not allowing posts that are against him to go up...


I understand your point, but this BLOG is intended to keep parents and students abreast of any and all developments around this issue. I think the few dozen hits we are adding to their site is less important than all of us knowing what's going on with this issue and the lunatic behind it.

I don't care what he and his 'prayer warriors' think they can accomplish, we have the law on our side and will overcome this bigotry in our schools.

We should not be afraid of his threats or other people hearing his threats. Reasonable people will draw the right conclusions, the rest are likely hopeless narrow minded bigots like Hutch that will never change their minds.

You'll notice I have not moderated any comments to date. This must remain an open forum, even to the close minded neighbors we have.

I do appreciate your comments. Please continue to share your thoughts here.

MtSiParents said...

I am sorry for the students at Mt Si who deserve good teachers but if I were the teachers with the letters of reprimand and their friends, I would not put up with this crap. I would move to a new school district.


That would be like moving to Canada because you don't like what is happening in the US. If all the reasonable people moved to Canada, we would leave the US in the hands of unchecked nutjobs with the biggest nuclear arsenal in the world at their fingertips. That would not be a good thing.

If these great teachers leave, who will be left to fight for our kids?

I hope the teachers stick it out, the difference they are making cannot be over emphasized.

Anonymous said...

Sorry I suggested the teachers leave. I just think they deserve better than the way they are being treated.

Anonymous said...

My first thought was to ask you to pull this article and quit giving this man more attention. Then I read down through the comments and realized I am so grateful for this forum. I agree with 'Mt Si Parents' reasoning for leaving the post - and appreciate the new adjective "media whore" to add to my vocab. I feel so sorry for that man's family. Imagine trying to stand up to him? A teacher waits until the end of an assembly, then raises her hand and asks permission to ask a question that he refused to answer, and he twists this to say she "interrupted an assembly"? Even if there are parents out there who disapprove of the teachers' behavior, how could anyone with intelligence WANT to stand in his corner and help feed his sick need for attention. At least even his supporters have to be seeing him for who he really is.

Anonymous said...

Hutcherson's media circus has about "done been played out" as my group home kids used to say. He started out with the local network affiliates, who as we all know have an attention span that merits Ritalin. Then he moved to CNN who enjoyed him for a couple of days. Then he went to Focus on the Family, which is a niche market media outlet, but most of us have heard of them. Now he is whining on One News Now, which I have never heard of. So the general trajectory is that he is using smaller and smaller media with more and more slant because the others are on to other things. I can only wonder who he will next go to. Perhaps we'll see him get three column inches on page four of the Centralia News-Gazette.

Lydia said...

As far as all of you people saying that Hutch has brought this spotlight upon himself... Hutch was an invited guest to that school. He was asked to share a part of his own life experience that was relevant to the holiday. He never brought his beliefs to that assembly. Although he has an unwaivering faith in Christ, he knows that there is a time and place for all things. UNLIKE the teachers that acted out like little children! You have a problem with his views, bring it up as an adult in an appropriate setting! McCormick, Potratz and others say that they were standing up for the kids...give me a break! They were trying to shove THEIR OWN AGENDA down the throats of that audience at the cost of another student. You all just want the Christian voice to shut up. Well, guess what? It's not going to happen. We will stand up for the Bible, we will stand up for Christ. We will stand on His teachings. We will not be silenced ANYMORE! We will take back our schools, we will ensure that our children will not be subject to days like the day of silence, just as we as Christians have been asked to remain at the flagpole for prayer outside of school hours!

Hutch has his church family backing him and we will not budge. Pat and the children will also know that they will not be alone in this.

By the way, here's a little quote from the Mount Si Student Planner on what is expected from students. I guess this doesn't pertain to teachers:

"ASSEMBLIES
Assemblies provide a regularly-scheduled part of the curriculum to promote pride and school spirit, as well as to provide alternate educational and enrichment experiences for students. Assemblies provide one of the few opportunities in school to learn formal audience behavior. Regardless of the type of program, courtesy demands that students be respectful and appreciative of participants and performers."

"DISRUPTIVE BEHAVIOR
Mount Si is an educational institution. Our primary purpose is the education of our students in a safe and secure environment. Any behavior which is disruptive to the educational function of the school or which creates an unpleasant environment will be dealt with according to the recommended sanctions for rule violations on page 15."

A white teacher booing a black preacher on MLK Day. Wow.

Anonymous said...

A bigot speaking about equal rights on MLK Day. Wow

Anonymous said...

Lydia said...

As far as all of you people saying that Hutch has brought this spotlight upon himself... Hutch was an invited guest to that school. He was asked to share a part of his own life experience that was relevant to the holiday. He never brought his beliefs to that assembly. Although he has an unwaivering faith in Christ, he knows that there is a time and place for all things.

The whole problem is the fact that he was invited at all. His actions in our society are those that would discriminate against another because of their orientation, and that is wrong and completely inappropriate to represent the true fight for equality that Rev. King died for!

Inviting Hutcherson was a disgrace to King's memory and his legacy. It is the principal who bears ultimate responsibility here.


UNLIKE the teachers that acted out like little children! You have a problem with his views, bring it up as an adult in an appropriate setting! McCormick, Potratz and others say that they were standing up for the kids...give me a break! They were trying to shove THEIR OWN AGENDA down the throats of that audience at the cost of another student.


"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it."

"In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends."

"Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."

-Martin Luther King, Jr.



You all just want the Christian voice to shut up. Well, guess what? It's not going to happen. We will stand up for the Bible, we will stand up for Christ. We will stand on His teachings.

Matthew 7:12
12 Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


We will not be silenced ANYMORE! We will take back our schools, we will ensure that our children will not be subject to days like the day of silence, just as we as Christians have been asked to remain at the flagpole for prayer outside of school hours!

I'm afraid you cannot. The law of our land is the Constitution not the Bible. Law has established that you cannot remove the GSA or the Day Of Silence.


A white teacher booing a black preacher on MLK Day. Wow.


I pray for your clouded narrow vision to clear. This is not and never will be about race. It is about ALL of our students. If you wish to cast many of our children as abominations to God, go ahead, but keep it out of our schools!


-Parent who embraces the light

JC said...

"A white teacher booing a black preacher on MLK Day. Wow."

Again Hutcherson supporters attempt to play the race card. How disgusting. We all know perfectly well that the race of Hutcherson and the teacher had nothing at all to do with events.

What I find interesting, though is that race is apparently the sole qualification Mr Hutcherson posses for speaking at an MLK assembly. I've asked this question of Hutcherson supporters in mulitple forums know and have yet to get a answer. Perhaps you will break the trend, Lydia.

What qualifications, save the color of his skin, does Hutcherson posses that would make him an appropriate speaking for this event? Was he active in the civil rights struggle? Did he participate in any of King's marches or rallies (He was in his teens at the time of King's asassination)? Has he been a propenent of ANY expansion of civil rights protections that have taken place since then? Do his actions embrace and on honor Dr. King's legacy and philosophy or does he consort with groups that advocate violence and attempt to decrease the scope of Dr King’s message of equality and tolerance to “equality for race”?
What exactly are these relevant life experiences of Hutcherson’s you claim he spoke of? From what I’ve heard he spoke mainly of how he was a victim of racial discrimination and how that made him hate white people. Give us specifics, Lydia, just what qualified this man to address and an entire high school about Dr. King?

JC said...

"We will take back our schools, we will ensure that our children will not be subject to days like the day of silence, just as we as Christians have been asked to remain at the flagpole for prayer outside of school hours!"

Just what is it about gay students and their supporters being silent for a day threatens you so much? I don't see how this affects you or your children in any way, please explain, be specific.

Also, the rally round the flagpole was a Christian started initiative. Students are free to pray alone and in groups in schools during the school day during free time. What you folks seek isn't the right to pray in school, you already have that. What you want is the right to force all the students to be part of your prayer. That, you are forbidden by this nation's laws.

Mr. McNamar said...

Can we all be honest for a moment? The Seattle Time's articles indicate that the Rev. Hutcherson spoke only on his experiences as they relate to a celebration of Dr. King. Therefore, regardless of free speech, the teachers should have voiced their disagreement in a more appropriate way. By modelling to the students that "shouting down" those you disagree with is appropriate, they damaged their reputation as teachers.
However, the school should have been sensitive to the potential for such backlash by bringing in a controversial person. And it isn't a small controversy the Reverend represents. It was nearsighted on their part.
Additionally, the Christians need to act more Christ like and not be freaked out by homosexuals. But the "liberals" and "open minded" people ought to be a little more open minded about the Christian perspective.
Pretty much everyone in this situation is wrong.

Anonymous said...

For all you smart people who think you know the constitution and bash Hutch to keep his thoughts & speech to himself - there is no such thing as Separation of Church & State. Here are the facts.

Separation of Church & State
Contrary to popular opinion, the term “separation of
church and state” is found nowhere in the United States
Constitution. While the First Amendment clearly forbids
the creation of a national denomination, it says nothing
about the so-called “separation of church and state.”

• The term “separation of church and state” was first used by
Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptists in 1801,
when he responded to their concerns about state involvement
in religion. Jefferson’s letter had nothing to say about limiting
public religious expression, but dealt with government’s
interference in the public expression of faith.

• It was U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black who first
inserted the term “separation of church and state” into American
jurisprudence in his majority opinion of Everson v. Board
of Education (1947). He wrote: “The First Amendment has
erected a wall between church and state. The wall must be
kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the
slightest breach.”

• Black’s opinion was based on a previous misreading of
Jefferson’s 1801 letter in the U.S. Supreme Court decision
Reynolds v. United States (1878). Black also confused his
history. In the opinion, he wrote that the Danbury letter was
“almost as an authoritative declaration of the scope and effect
of the First Amendment.”

• The First Amendment states: “Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion; or prohibiting the free
exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or the
press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances.” No
mention is made of a “wall between church and state.”

• The true purpose of the First Amendment was to prohibit the
federal government from establishing a national church, like the
Church of England, or require that sectarian policy be forced
on an individual state or on the federal government. While the
amendment does recognize a “differentiation between church
and the government, it does not mean that they could not
cooperate with each other.”

• In 2001, Daniel Dreisbach, Associate Professor of Justice, Law
and Society at American University, wrote that Black was wrong
to apply the term “separation of church and state” to the First
Amendment. The danger of Black’s argument, according to
Dreisbach, is that it gives constitutional reasons to “separate
religion, religious values, and religious organizations from public
life.” He continues: “If we can’t talk about religion in any
meaningful way in public schools, religious citizens can’t communicate
their faith in public life. [The public square] must be
‘sanitized’ of religious messages, and we are left with a strictly
secular public life.”

• The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and its allies, along
with other groups hostile to religious freedom, have used
Black’s wording to:
- Deny churches the right to rent public school facilities for
Sunday worship services.
- Have public displays of the Ten Commandments removed
from public buildings.
- Prohibit students from praying at graduation ceremonies or
football games.

• In 2005, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, in ruling
in favor of a public display of the Ten Commandments, wrote:
“The ACLU’s argument contains...fundamental flaws...[It] makes
repeated reference to ‘the separation of church and state.’ This
extra-constitutional construct has grown tiresome. The First
Amendment does not demand a wall of separation between
church and state.”

As you can see, the liberal left has duped many into thinking they should give up their free speech rights when it comes to discussing religion, etc. It is actually just the opposite, the government is supposed to create an environment where all can speak freely, yes, even Hutch!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For all you smart people who think you know the constitution and bash Hutch to keep his thoughts & speech to himself - there is no such thing as Separation of Church & State. Here are the facts.


"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistant that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."
~ Thomas Paine

"Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned; yet we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one-half the world fools and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth."
~ Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, 1781-82

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law."
~ Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

"The government of the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion"
~ John Adams

"We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition ... In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man's religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States."
~ George Washington

"If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution."
~ George Washington

"The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion."

~ Thomas Paine

Anonymous said...

Lydia says,
"You all just want the Christian voice to shut up. Well, guess what? It's not going to happen. We will stand up for the Bible, we will stand up for Christ. We will stand on His teachings. We will not be silenced ANYMORE!"

I'm all for having a Christian voice in this discussion. But guess what? My Bible doesn't have a single quote from Jesus on the subject of homosexuality. He does talk about that Love thing a lot - "This is my command: Love each other."-John 15:13

Please don't speak for the entire Christian voice anymore.